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Richie and werewolf symbolism
random gifs of richie tozier cause i miss him.
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genuinely still baffled by the "they don't need to address Mike's sexuality, all that matters is that he's in love with Will" crowd. especially when people say it who claim to care about Mike's character (when you could also just say you don't really care for that part of the show, which would be fine, no one cares about all characters/arcs)
because Surely you realize how him being gay or bi would change his entire character, right. whether he's attracted to girls or not would change the way all his actions up until now are to be interpreted. not even making a statement on his sexuality here, this is generally speaking
if he was actually attracted to El you'd have to address when and why he suddenly stopped loving El since in fiction "it just happened" isn't usually a satisfying answer to breaking a multi season couple up. Why is Will it for him? he's been acting weird for ages so when did he realize? and what made it click he fell out of love with El for good? you'd have to give some explanation for why he was able to proclaim his love for El accidentally in s3 and then fail to do it in the same season while looking uncomfortable with kissing her and so on since his pov was so majorly withheld
if he's not attracted to girls his arc in s5 needs to focus more on comphet and how dating El affected him/why he felt he couldn't break up with her/homophobic attitude in his surrounding slash Hawkins. or the idea of platonic and romantic love in general. there would be no how he got from point A(El) to point B(Will), like what the focus of a bi!Mike s5 arc would have to be on to explain what happened, but a focus on how he ended up at point A in the first place and why he was stuck there/how it affected him
and even core moments of the series would have entirely different meanings depending on if he's attracted to girls. "it's not my fault you don't like girls" being a peak example. if he's gay it's easy to explain it with projection. if he IS attracted to girls though it would read as a much more intentional (even if blurted out) act of homophobia, since it would be him pointing something out that Will genuinely does (not liking being around girls) but he himself can't relate to
and that's all just the surface level differences. Mike being attracted to girls or not being attracted to girls would give his arc an entirely different focus in s5. AS WELL as make his past actions have entirely different meanings. the idea that "it doesn't matter for his character" is so insanely wrong it's wild how many people confidently peddle it
#Mike being gay is the better writing choice imo in case some people don't know my opinion on it and the post isn't really about it#because making him bi would contradict major parts of what they already wrote and the coding they gave his character#would also be more conclusive with other themes the show already has like platonic vs romantic love#good example of a character where it's the exact opposite is Richie Tozier from the original It book btw#specifically when people try to make him gay in adaptations/fanworks which always derails his character and requires massive#changes to the way he's interpreted and things to be ignored/written out#because he was specifically BI coded in the book and not gay coded#so any gay interpretations take away from his character massively
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Mike accidentally wrote “Losers Cult” instead of “Losers Club” on a piece of paper.
mm yess, the LOSERS CULT.
#beverly marsh#bev marsh#richie tozier#eddie kaspbrak#mike hanlon#bill denbrough#ben hanscom#stan uris#losers club#the losers club#losers club memes#typo#it 2017#it chapter one#it memes#benverly#reddie#modern it#gender cult#losers cult#i mean.. we did do a ritual..#before you ask about the gender cult tag lemme just tell you so many people in the losers club are queer#like okay coming out im bi#eddie and richie are GAY.#bill is bi#mike is aroace#stan and ben are straight allies#we love the gays#lgbtq stuff in tags#queer losers club headcanons
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the REAL fruity four
#i think im hilarious#byler#methinkes#boreo#reddie#bi ziggy katz <3#idk the ship name for him and lila :(#finn wolfhard#ziggy katz#richie tozier#mike wheeler#boris pavlikovsky
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These two ships have my heart, always and forever
I made these especially for them
#byler#reddie#mike wheeler#richie tozier#will byers#eddie kaspbrak#finn wolfhard#noah schnapp#jack dylan grazer#it 2017#stranger things#let finn play one straight character#finn 'i play bi/gay characters' wolfhard
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yapper x listener my fav dynamic (i didn’t wanna try w the hands)
tried to do more poses and do some variety, SO PROUD
the way the quality was MURDERED.
time took: 4 hours!!!
inspired by a song called Talk Too Much it’s so reddie coded it’s unreal there’s a reddie animatic to it on yt go find it
#art#fanart#digital art#drawing#eddie#eddie kaspbrak#richie#richie tozier#reddie#reddie art#yapper x listener#i’m the yapper AND the listener#bisexual#queer#bi richie queer eddie my beloved#no way eddie understands sexuality y’all
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this has been a saga by me. thank you for coming to my ted talk.
#before we even do the discourse thing every day the needle changes between gay mike and bi mike so dont even go there both hcs are valid#mike wheeler#veronica sawyer#max mayfield#lucas sinclair#lumax#troy barnes#kaz brekker#inej ghafa#kanej#byler#beverly marsh#stanley barber#nancy wheeler#richie tozier#bisexual
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Why are people fighting about Richie’s sexuality again?!?
Please grow up and realize that people can HC him however they want because news flash in the original book the man is straight…. The biphobia I’ve been seeing is crazy and hate is the last thing we need right now.
Richie can be gay
Richie can be bi
Richie can even be trans or nonbinary
if it brings people joy, why take that away from them???
#like I personally HC him as bi and you don’t see me bashing everyone who hcs him as gay#this is getting annoying#can’t we just all agree that he has feelings for Eddie and move on?!?#I’m so sick of seeing the biphobia#it hurts#like who hurt you for you to just hate on bisexuals#the losers club#it stephen king#richie tozier#eddie kaspbrak#stanley uris#ben hanscom#bill denbrough#beverly marsh#mike hanlon#rant post
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ok i am not doing much commenting on IT (novel) until i am finished bc i am going fucking insane but i completely and totally subscribe to the gay or possibly bisexual richie reading. he reeks of suppressed feelings for one thing-not just gayboy feelings, all of them, this mf could not express genuine emotion if there was a gun to his head-and shame. i feel it radiating off of him like fire. i CAN get behind bi richie (w his weird little crush on bev, him having a relationship w a woman, so on) but also there is this part of me that's like yeah but that's also kinda gayboy. like he knows, objectively, that bev is considered pretty, and who's the say that's not informing his 'feelings' for her? plus she's an easy out, since he knows both bill and ben maybe sort of like her, and he's absolutely not willing to get involved in that, so. anyway. richie is a fag sorry not sorry
#spam brain#his fears also are so impersonal. but like. not???#the werewolf being a metaphor for being bi OR a metaphor for being unclean through a fault that is not his own#the eye looking where its not supposed to#and desiring things its not supposed to#etc#idk man this book is driving me fucking crazy#in a way this book to me is like if i loved u less i could talk abt it more#so. yeah.#im gonna probably finish it by next week so if thats the case u may then hear more of my insane talk#until next time#IT novel#Richie Tozier
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reddie x scott pilgrim one shot where richie is scott and eddie is ramona and the losers + bowers gang (vic and henry imo) are eddie’s seven evil exes 😭
#ben is matthew#vic is lucas#henry is todd#bev is roxie (same story line except the bi-curious part was eddie being into men and ‘trying it out’ w bev and deciding that he is gay)#bill and mike as kyle and ken#stan as gideon#< my opinion on who would be who#i think it would be so funny#it fanfiction#it stephen king#it 2019#richie tozier#eddie kaspbrak#it chapter two#reddie#it#it movies#it 2017#scott pilgrim#scott pilgram vs the world
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Losers club headcanons:
Richie Tozier is bisexual and has been in love with Eddie Kaspbrak since they were 5 years old. Both of these things can exist together.
(Don't like don't read. Post hate and I'll block you)
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Once again thinking about how people will block people for headcanoning Richie as bi.
To me, Richie is bi and Eddie is gay.
Richie, who in the book talks very fondly about his ex girlfriend and is sad he couldn't give more to that.
Eddie, who married someone he compares to his mother, and this woman who even literally thinks she wishes she could keep him hidden in a closet and not let him out.
Richie, who flirts with both Bev and Eddie.
Eddie, who absolutely had a childhood crush on Billy and gets so flustered around Richie.
Do these two men still love each other? Yes. Do you have to think either of them is bi? No. But it does often feel like just hating on bi people for no reason, and refusing to include them when there is evidence for it.
#richie tozier#eddie kaspbrak#you cannot change my mind but also it's perfectly fine to hc characters anyway you like????#be mad if you want i guess#block me pls because i refuse to not let characters be bi
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Ya know I am realizing I have never done this but here are my personal headcannons for the Loser's sexualities, set in my poly Losers universe ofc
Ben: Straight/homoflexible - the only guys he's ever been attracted to are the Losers and sexuality doesn't matter much to him bc it's about who he's in love with over their gender. Probably later on in life considers himself more on the pan scale.
Bev: Bi - one third of the Loser's bi squad. In college she hooked up with a few women and had a gf (Kay) for a while. Swears in another life she ended up married to a woman instead of six guys.
Eddie: Gay - I say he's gay but I've seen people headcannon him as Bi and that's cool too but he's always been gay in my mind. Like Ben with the guys, Bev is kind of the exception for him. Sexuality s a spectrum. I don't think he gets physically intimate with Bev in a one on one setting but they're very close on an emotional scale.
Mike: Pan/Demisexual - He has never cared about the 'gender' of the person he's in love with. He's the one who suggests to Ben he may also be pan. And for Mike he has to fall in love with someone before sexual attraction even sets in. He's a big teddy bear let's be honest.
Bill: Bi/Unlabeled - I've talked about this before but it never occurs to Bill to 'label' himself. He is just is who he is and he just loves who he loves. Never cared to put a label on it but if pushed came to shove he'd consider himself bi.
Richie: Bi - He's a slut. He loves women and men and loves to have sex with them. Probably is one of the most sex positive people you'll meet. Very open and outward with his sexuailty. Also challenges the bi 'stereotype' that just bc he's bi and sex positive, doesn't mean he can't have a meaningful relationship and be faithful.
Stan: Pan-ish/Demisexual - I go back in forth with him. I feel like he is very much gay bc often I can't imagine him in a relationship with a woman or feminine presenting person but I think Bev and Patty are the exceptions which land in him more on the Pan side of the spectrum. Like he is sexually attracted to them but that's only after he's established a bond with them- hence also being demi.
Also ofc they're all Poly. And theses are just my personal headcannons.
#just thought these would be fun#I remember the Richie sexuailty controversy after the 2019 movie#so let me remind ya'll that Richie is only gay in the movie canon#book canon he's more bi and miniseries canon I'm not sure#stanley uris#bill denbrough#richie tozier#eddie kaspbrack#mike hanlon#beverly marsh#ben hanscom#poly losers#poly losers headcanons#it 2017#it 2019
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at some historical sites
Here I am at the Derry Arcade where Richie discovered he was gay.
#beverly marsh#bev marsh#it 2017#the losers club#losers club#modern it#richie tozier#bev and richie are besties#bev and richie’s queer swagger#gay richie tozier#bi beverly marsh#derry maine
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bisexual richie tozier
so we all know about the discourse between gay richie and bisexual richie and i think is obvious where i stand here, but it's been bothering me too much lately, so I'm gonna put my thoughts out there even if no one asked me to
so first the first argument on why a part of the fandom says is bad is; "richie was canonically gay on the it chapter two movie"
and well they could try and tell me that all they want, but I'm still not gonna change my mind because is still subjective, in the movie it was never said richie was gay, neither was it explicitly stated
and you're gonna say to me, "but it was coded"
and all i'm gona say is ("oh like the book bi coded richie that you all ignore and underestimate" but that would just be petty of me so I'm not gonna) actually i didn't get that richie was gay from that, i just thought "oh he likes a guy, not sure who, but he likes one" so just making the assumption seems kind of a stereotypical and something that straight people would do, just because a man likes another man that doesn't make him gay and assume that is wrong
but andy moscarrietty and bill harder confirmed he was gay
the same bill harder that didn't read the book and just went with the script (look i don't have anything against bill, i actually liked his performance, it was really good, but again he didn't read the book) and the same andy moscarrietty that doesn't respect characters arc's and switched them how most convenient seemed for him and if they need the actor and director to confirmed it in interviews and such, they didn't do a good job portraying the so call gay representation, sorry to break it
"y'all can't let gay men have representation without trying to steal it"
i could say the same, people reading richie as bi existed before it chapter two, even before it chapter one, this character was seen as bisexual and andy instead of using his bi coding decide to joint his coding with eddie's gay coding, he literally admitted he used eddie coding on him because richie wasn't angsty enough (what does that even mean, a character doesn't have to suffer to be a good character), actually it was half hearted representation, just because he saw the potential to profit out of the reddie fanbase wich was huge and didn't want to let go the opportunity. he was going make it more subtle, so if that doesn't tells them how much he doesn't cares about representation, i don't know what to tell y'all
"representation is still important and they gave it to us, stop whining" (something i literally read)
look gay richie wouldn't exist if there wasn't previously a fandom that shipped reddie so hard and that same fandom was played dirty, not only by andy but the people that joined after it chapter two too, all those fic writers, edit, gif and art creators were bullied just by saying they didn't agree and still saw richie as bi, people were receiving death treats, being call homophobic and were drove off of the fandom, just by stating their opinions as if the 2019 movie was the only canon, wich it isn't
"who cares they aren't real, this are just characters"
well yeah, but the experiences that richie and eddie had are real to bisexual and gay people respectively and those aren't interchangeable (and the people being bullied were real too so), andy not respecting that is homophobic and biphobic, but also denotes then again that he doesn't care about representation, but if y'all still want to make richie gay bc andy said so, then go off you capitalistic baby, even so they have to respect the people that won't settle for his half hearted portrayal of a lgbt character, i want representation and i want it to be good and fair, i want eddie kaspbrak canonically being the gay character that he always was and i don't want andy stealing his coding to give it to richie, i want justice for this characters and the people that identify with them
"people still should respect other people's headcanons"
and i agree, gay men identifying with richie were never the problem, it is valid if you respect bi richie, identifying with gay richie doesn't make you a bad person, the thing is the majority of the fandom that saw richie as bi, me included, initially didn't care if people saw richie as gay, we were just disappointed and sad, but i used to read any fanfic and reblog any fanart even if gay richie wasn't what i hc the character as, but at least to me, it left a bad taste on my mouth thinking about gay richie, because i saw all the biphobia happening and excusing it with wokeness saying:
" yeah in the book richie may be bi coding, but it is a bad book because it has that orgy scene and book richie was racist"
even if they prefer the movies because of that, they have to be realistic, the movies were based on the book, andy moscarrietty isn't their grand savoir, the rights are still king's and he profit out of the movies, he is in it chapter two, be serious please (he was also high on drugs, which isn't a excuse, but it explains a lot), andy read the book (supposedly bc his treatment of the losers says otherwise), he's a fan, stop trying to be on the higher moral ground when you aren't, also the part of the fandom that likes the book better, condemned that scene too, just because we like the book, doesn't mean we don't have critical thinking about its problematics themes
richie was born and raised in the 50's, was a kid that didn't really understand what he was saying, he just wanted to make his friends laugh, I'm pretty sure he was imitating the comedians from the time too, this meta by @dear-wormwoods explains it better, but it just seats wrong to me that that's an excuse against bi richie when they don't have a problem using other of his treats like him being a radio host, his nicknames and pet names like eds and eddie my love, make sandy his girlfriend mind you, a lesbian (is that the only way to make his love for eddie more valid or what?) or having him say he wasn't really attracted to her, why is that ok? but bi richie isn't? if all of that is part of the book too? sounds pretty biphobic to me, but not only biphobic, is also racist and performative, (if you only care about his racism when it comes to his bisexuality, but everything else is fine, start questioning your biphobia and racism)
also just because the movies didn't say the nword doesn't mean they aren't racist, the only black character was strip of his arc, made mike hanlon just a side character that doesn't talk in the first movie and don't make me get started on how they portray mike on the second movie and no, I'm not trying to make anyone feel guilty for liking the movies, I'm just saying, be more critical and less hypocritical
also, also i have to say attacking people just because they like bi richie with things like "you're racist because you like book richie" or "you're homophobic because you're making a canon gay character like women" are so stupid, be for real guys, you don't even know if were are white or gay, because yeah I've seen black and gay folks being pro bi richie and you're just assuming what we are without knowing for sure and just making us feel bad and even if we were white what's the problem, we just like the book characterization and that's totally valid
#richie tozier#it stephen king#it 2017#it 2019#it chapter two#it chapter one#reddie#now im gonna stop for now#im just so frustrated#bi richie#long post
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Why is Richies so similar to Mikes?
#it 2017#it fandom#it movie#it stephen king#it 2019#it chapter 1#i was curious#I’m honestly not surprised#richie tozier#reddie#gay richie tozier#he’s not bi lol#are all Finn characters queer and neurodivergent?
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